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In real life there is no white or black mostly, the color is almost always grey and thats why u need common sense. Anyways you can keep yr idea to yrself and just hope u dont encounter an other Mc Carthy era altho it seems its more than a possibility atm for the U.S with this new home security stuff.
And for god's sake, get over it neither u nor yr ideas or yr insults are as important as 2 billion muslims and our probhet.
World has many different cultures and many different ways of life. If you want to live in world with other ppl, u have to respect them but why I am even bothering, your country is acting just like I say with this incident. And i didnt see anyone supporting the violance regarding this matter. Am i wrong or is reek arguing for nothing?
Like I said there are 2 kinds of faith and altho its always easier to manipulate poorly educated ppl, its also easy to manipulate even educated ppl under right circumstances just like it happened in Germany. True intellectuals like Speer fell to same trap just as easily as a standart national socialist german. Oh and quotes from Karl Marx, what did u expect an ateist would say? Especially one who was the father of Communism.I love the way how he describes the 1st human life coming fm apes.
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I have to admit I'm seeing a different side of Hakan here, on I'm not used to seeing.
Regardless of whether I agree with his viewpoint or not, no one can claim he doesn't argue his point intelligently.
Guess that just goes to show you can't really judge someone by what you see by their forum posts huh?
I haven't weighed in on this topic yet, but I guess I'll throw my .02 in.
First off I'm coming from the perspective of a Canadian (who are widely held to be very tolerant of other faiths, sometimes maybe even to a fault, we don't subsbribe to a "melting pot" philosophy for example) who was schooled in Catholic schools, so no doubt my teachings were influenced by even a slight bias.
Havinmg said that, there is a significant difference between faith and religion.
To me faith is about ideals and core beliefs, and religion is about expression and guidelines.
No question that the basis of our laws and rules that govern how we interact with one another is deeply influenced by the predominant religions in the area in question.
Without religion, morality would be an individual determination, (and in many respects even with religions, it still is) and the way in which we interact with one another would be radically different.
The danger with religions, with any religion, is exactly as Hakan stated, it can used as a means to manipulate those that subscribe to it blindly.
Its not a Muslim thing, its apparent in every religion.
Protestants and Catholics have been killing each other for decades.
Muslims and Jews, Jews and Christians, Christians and Muslims....
This is why I have problems with generalizations which paint an entire faith with the same brush.
Sadly too there are those whose violent retaliations have nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with opportunism.
Consider similar events not even linked to religion such as the Watts riots or the looting in New Orleans after the devastation.
Yes I do believe that the newspaper had the right to publish those cartoons.
I also believe strongly that the government of Denmark has no place in censoring or limiting the media in that country.
To do otherwise is to open a door to an Orwellian type of governance which I think everyone agrees is the last place we want to go.
On the other hand, the reaction to this was most definately predictable.
There exists within the Muslim world, groups that advocate this type of action against infidels, and these groups seize on any opportunity like this to advance their message.
In the end, the only thing thats really missing here is understanding.
Understanding by the paper in question of the repercussions its choice would bring, and understanding by these radicals that every action by those outside the Muslim world is not a directed affront against Mohammed or Allah.
Its a sad situation but one that will continue long after all of us are gone.
