Playstation 4, 5, and 6 already in the works

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Ken Kutaragi, the 'Father of PlayStation', has revealed that he already has a vision for PS4, 5 and even 6 - despite having announced his imminent retirement. Speaking to the EE Times Kutaragi said that previously he had been unable to talk about "the next step" as PlayStation 3 had not launched globally.

"We've introduced PS3 in Europe, so now I can openly talk about" future plans, he continued.

"As a matter of course, I have the vision of Playstation 4, 5 and 6, which will merge into the network."

According to the EE Times report, Kutaragi has already supplied Sony's designers with ideas for cutting the cost of manufacturing PS3 - and with design models for two years into the future. He is now focused on exploiting the opportunities offered by connectivity, stating, "The design concept of the Cell processor is the network processor."

Kutaragi announced his retirement as CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment last week.

He told EE Times he will continue to have a relationship with Sony but that he will work independently of the company for the most part, adding, "Now I'm ready to start working with a much wider world."

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Let's hope they don't fuck them up as bad as the PS3 so I actually bother buying one for Metal Gear Solid.
 
Lol you need to stop with the PS bullshit. PS3 is a big failure admit it already. PS4, 5, 6? WTF. Don't count your chickens before they hatch...
 
PS4 will boil your eggs PS5 will shave you and 6 will tickle your feet.:P

I have a greater vision rofl.
 
Curse said:
Lol you need to stop with the PS bullshit. PS3 is a big failure admit it already. PS4, 5, 6? WTF. Don't count your chickens before they hatch...
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Only if you stop with the bullshit conclusion that you think Sony is going to go out of business based on a divisional product. On your part it is wishful thinking to conclude that a company that has produced some of the best electrical devices of the past and present is going to disappear overnight. I would like to remind you yet again that the PS3 is currently ahead of the Xbox 360 on its year 1 sales, so your portrayal of the products failures are unfounded, and premature.

Sony is still bigger than Microsoft in the terms of Computer Electronics, and ahead of Microsoft in Operating Profit, and Revenue. Sony could buy out Nintendo if it wishes, but imo feels the market needs the competitive edge. Sony believes that consumers, and its customers come first, and this is why at every stage the company strives to develop technologies, and devices that will change traditional markets forever.

Get over SOE, Get over SWG, Get over you hate for Sony.


Sorry, but your bull shit is killing me.
 
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My experience regarding SOE is they dont give a fuck about customer service, otherwise they wouldnt screw their customers over the dreams of getting new ones, as usual they failed in both. So i am not buying your Bs about customer stuff and since you can blatantly lie about a thing which is crystal clear to everyone else,you are stupid enough to lie about almost anything and think ppl take you serious, I hope you just dont believe what u say here to be a fanboi of sony otherwise i would feel pity for you not much maybe as much as i feel for a sicky puppy.

But do keep on posting your stupid stuff, it does give me a sort of entertainment.
 
Hakan said:
My experience regarding SOE is they dont give a fuck about customer service, otherwise they wouldnt screw their customers over the dreams of getting new ones, as usual they failed in both. So i am not buying your Bs about customer stuff and since you can blatantly lie about a thing which is crystal clear to everyone else,you are stupid enough to lie about almost anything and think ppl take you serious, I hope you just dont believe what u say here to be a fanboi of sony otherwise i would feel pity for you not much maybe as much as i feel for a sicky puppy.

But do keep on posting your stupid stuff, it does give me a sort of entertainment.
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WTF? The only time I mentioned SOE was in the end, which was stating your opinion of Sony is based on the situation related to game created by subsidoary.
 
Its not unusual or uncommon that the subsidary companies under the management follows the ethics and rules of the mother company since they report and directly responsible to them.
 
BananaMan said:
Only if you stop with the bullshit conclusion that you think Sony is going to go out of business based on a divisional product. On your part it is wishful thinking to conclude that a company that has produced some of the best electrical devices of the past and present is going to disappear overnight. I would like to remind you yet again that the PS3 is currently ahead of the Xbox 360 on its year 1 sales, so your portrayal of the products failures are unfounded, and premature.

Sony is still bigger than Microsoft in the terms of Computer Electronics, and ahead of Microsoft in Operating Profit, and Revenue. Sony could buy out Nintendo if it wishes, but imo feels the market needs the competitive edge. Sony believes that consumers, and its customers come first, and this is why at every stage the company strives to develop technologies, and devices that will change traditional markets forever.

Get over SOE, Get over SWG, Get over you hate for Sony.


Sorry, but your bull shit is killing me.
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Not once did I ever say SONY was going outta buisness because of the PS3. Not once. All I have ever said was that SONY was a POS company and that I'm damn glad that the PS3 sucks. You need to get your head out of your ass. I don't know how to put this so I'll just say it like this. You are brainwashed or some shit. It may be the coffee you drink at work, or the dick they shove up your ass but your company blows. SONY BLOWS. YOU BLOW. ;)
 
BananaMan said:
Sony could buy out Nintendo if it wishes, but imo feels the market needs the competitive edge. Sony believes that consumers, and its customers come first, and this is why at every stage the company strives to develop technologies, and devices that will change traditional markets forever.
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Tell me you don't actually believe that. There's no way in hell you can possibly believe that.

If you do, please explain how Sony installing a rootkit into people's computers without their knowledge or permission can be classified as "customers come first."
 
reek said:
Tell me you don't actually believe that. There's no way in hell you can possibly believe that.

If you do, please explain how Sony installing a rootkit into people's computers without their knowledge or permission can be classified as "customers come first."
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Um, What is Microsoft Windows? One big rootkit.
 
*grabs popcorn*

no wait i dont have any.....

*grabs 2 sets of 4 triple chocolate muffins*
 
The cell processor used in the PS3 is an awesome piece of design and engineering. I'm sure its manufacturing costs will be able to come down substantially in the near future. I'm sure higher levels of component integration are possible that will reduce the cost of goods for the PS3.

One of the problems today is that very few programmers really know how to take advantage of the parallelism in modern multiple-processor units like the Cell in the PS3. Dealing with concurrency can be hideously complicated. There are few tools available to help break down problems into more manageable chunks that do not push the hideous complexity somewhere else. Moreover, programmers have been trained to think sequentially for about 60 years because computers are fundamentally sequential engines and the educational tradition was established to make the most out of very expensive sequential engines.
 
BananaMan said:
Only if you stop with the bullshit conclusion that you think Sony is going to go out of business based on a divisional product. On your part it is wishful thinking to conclude that a company that has produced some of the best electrical devices of the past and present is going to disappear overnight. I would like to remind you yet again that the PS3 is currently ahead of the Xbox 360 on its year 1 sales, so your portrayal of the products failures are unfounded, and premature.
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The PS3 is doing better than the Xbox 360 because it has the PS2's following to hold leech off of. Most of the people I know that get a PS3 do it because it's 'from the guys that made the PS2'. The 360 also has a year head start on the PS3, which was part of Microsoft's plan. So the 1 year sales are kind of a moot point.
 
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Poldano said:
The cell processor used in the PS3 is an awesome piece of design and engineering. I'm sure its manufacturing costs will be able to come down substantially in the near future. I'm sure higher levels of component integration are possible that will reduce the cost of goods for the PS3.
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That's not it. It's not the cost of materials and manufacturing of that individual product that has such a high cost. It's the brand you're buying, along with paying for the R&D of the product. Once they recoup that money they will reduce the price to be competitive.
 
djmtott said:
That's not it. It's not the cost of materials and manufacturing of that individual product that has such a high cost. It's the brand you're buying, along with paying for the R&D of the product. Once they recoup that money they will reduce the price to be competitive.
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I agree with you in general. Here are the specifics of my point. It's easier and faster to recoup development investment with lower COGS. Reduced COGS also make it easier to defer payback of development costs. SONY's problem with the PS3 is to get some market share back. It can do this more easily, without as much grief from the bean counters, if the hardware is cheaper to make.

As for my digression into the difficulty of multiprocessor programming, that relates to a recent company-internal presentation I attended that featured a speaker from Intel. The speaker said pretty much the same thing, with a somewhat less hyperbolic set of adjectives, and had some interesting points on multiprocessor programming specifically in the context of game programming. Of course the examples he used did not involve the PS3 processor, because that is not an Intel chip or design, but the comments applied to the programming problem in general and could easily be seen to apply to the PS3 processor.

This was meant to imply that some of the difficulties that the PS3 is experiencing might be related to its revolutionary (for the consumer sector) processor architecture, which gaming companies in general have not yet learned to program effectively and reliably.
 
Poldano said:
I agree with you in general. Here are the specifics of my point. It's easier and faster to recoup development investment with lower COGS. Reduced COGS also make it easier to defer payback of development costs. SONY's problem with the PS3 is to get some market share back. It can do this more easily, without as much grief from the bean counters, if the hardware is cheaper to make.

As for my digression into the difficulty of multiprocessor programming, that relates to a recent company-internal presentation I attended that featured a speaker from Intel. The speaker said pretty much the same thing, with a somewhat less hyperbolic set of adjectives, and had some interesting points on multiprocessor programming specifically in the context of game programming. Of course the examples he used did not involve the PS3 processor, because that is not an Intel chip or design, but the comments applied to the programming problem in general and could easily be seen to apply to the PS3 processor.

This was meant to imply that some of the difficulties that the PS3 is experiencing might be related to its revolutionary (for the consumer sector) processor architecture, which gaming companies in general have not yet learned to program effectively and reliably.
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Couldn't of said it better myself, A high cog ratio is affecting Sony, but the SCE division has been set some high targets, so not much choice on the matter.

The developers look reluctant to learn something other than the DirectX tools they are used too. Current games use less than 19% of the consoles power, and this is unfortunate for Sony, and the consumers who purchase the product. I just hope Developers realise the potiential of the product soon, before it passes them by.
 
BananaMan said:
Couldn't of said it better myself, A high cog ratio is affecting Sony, but the SCE division has been set some high targets, so not much choice on the matter.

The developers look reluctant to learn something other than the DirectX tools they are used too. Current games use less than 19% of the consoles power, and this is unfortunate for Sony, and the consumers who purchase the product. I just hope Developers realise the potiential of the product soon, before it passes them by.
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Not too surprising at all. I kind of picked up a lot of the constraints on SCE from trade journals and bits of insider information that drifted my way. I also have a fairly good seat for observing the sordid underside of the software industry. There is software technology that is about 10x better than stuff in widespread use, but there is little market for it, because there are few people that can connect the problem they are trying to solve with all the various the tools that can help them solve it.

Companies are unwilling to undertake the investment risk in "human capital" necessary to train people to use the existing tools effectively, and thereby create demand for improvements. It's much easier to simply export the same old shinola to places with cheaper intellectual labor. Of course, that approach doesn't help solve a problem that is beyond the ability of the available human minds to grasp. To solve that kind of problem, there has to be a way to simplify the problem into smaller problems that can be grasped.

My contention is that the suits who control the world are, in general, wusses when it comes to challenges involving human capital, and feebs when it comes to surpassing such challenges. I'll leave that rant as flame bait. :lol:
 
Sovi said:
The PS3 is doing better than the Xbox 360 because it has the PS2's following to hold leech off of. Most of the people I know that get a PS3 do it because it's 'from the guys that made the PS2'. The 360 also has a year head start on the PS3, which was part of Microsoft's plan. So the 1 year sales are kind of a moot point.
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Yoink!

While sales of the PS2 remain robust, sales of Sony's new PlayStation 3 are lagging those of rival consoles from Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) and Nintendo Co. Ltd.
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Lol, and a good read ;)
 
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