Intel's Milestone

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I'm just not a fan of multi-core processors. I know the down right basics as to how they work, but in my head it's still a cheap way around the problem. I think it was a way of saying, "We've finally reached the point where we can't hold true to Moore's Law so lets release Dual Core processors to make it seem like it's compliant to it."

I could be totally wrong, but that's just how my mind is seeing it
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Well works faster than a single processor of the same quantity. So why is it bad?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stavrose @ Jan 31 2007, 04:06 PM) [snapback]142176[/snapback][/center]
I'm just not a fan of multi-core processors. I know the down right basics as to how they work, but in my head it's still a cheap way around the problem. I think it was a way of saying, "We've finally reached the point where we can't hold true to Moore's Law so lets release Dual Core processors to make it seem like it's compliant to it."

I could be totally wrong, but that's just how my mind is seeing it
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No, you are pretty close to truth there. The multi-core thing is to make sure Intel/AMD can keep pumping "latest and greatest" technology every 6 months or so out on the market. Obviously two 3.2GHz processors does not mean the same as one 6.4 Ghz core. It will come down to a lot on the software end and how the mutli-tasking and hyper threading is used.

Going to a dual core machine will not grant you a significant, or even noticeable performance hike on a majority of your applications. Hopefully O/Ses and large software packages (like an MMORPG, or Business suites) will take advantages of what multi-core has to offer, but don't expect some immense leap in speed with your loot.

That is why what Intel is detailing out here is such a big deal, it will most likely mean having faster single core machines that don't require a refrigerator on top of it to keep it from overheating.
 
i have to disagree fluffy. i recently went to core 2 from my ageing athlon xp and i have noticed huage, yes HUAGE differences in regular windows use, as well as in all my games.

the only thing i have changed is my motherboard and my cpu
 
Yep I had a Pentium 4 3.8Ghz HT. And there is in NO WAY better than the Core 2 Duo 3.2ghz.

Opening one program was ok with it, but doing what I normally do... Multitask... It was MUCH slower (Pentium 4). ^_^
 
yeah, i can have about 50 different media players with different porn running in each now
 
My comp is still 4 years old and i've not had any problems. Then again, i built it myself. P4 2.8ghz, 1gb of ram, radeon 9700 128MB, SB audigy 2 platinum. There were times where I ran both SWG and Jedi Academy at the same time. while waiting for my turn in a multiplayer duel, i'd alt+tab to galaxies and grind. All my past computers by year 3 i'd be like, OK WTF I need a new comp cause this lag is retarded. But here I am approaching Year 4 and i have no intentions on upgrading my comp or upgrading to Vista. I might be buying a laptop for school, but thats it. It will probably be a good year or two before I'll need a new comp at this rate.
 
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yeah, i can have about 50 different media players with different porn running in each now
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Nah, when working I have 14 programs open and 3 doing something while I'm doing something else ^_^
 
hehehehe

for some reason my fps in bf2 and 2142 on HIGHER settings is way better than before. never realised how much my cpu was limiting the rest of my hardware
 
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hehehehe

for some reason my fps in bf2 and 2142 on HIGHER settings is way better than before. never realised how much my cpu was limiting the rest of my hardware
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Games run better. That's what matters. ^_^
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stavrose @ Jan 31 2007, 05:27 PM) [snapback]142187[/snapback][/center]
yay, i'm not a retard then!
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Yes you are. :p

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(PrOdiGy @ Jan 31 2007, 06:32 PM) [snapback]142199[/snapback][/center]
i have to disagree fluffy. i recently went to core 2 from my ageing athlon xp and i have noticed huage, yes HUAGE differences in regular windows use, as well as in all my games.

the only thing i have changed is my motherboard and my cpu
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Okay, so you went from a new processor configuration and new motherboard from an aging system, well no shit you saw a difference.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stavrose @ Jan 31 2007, 03:43 PM) [snapback]142204[/snapback][/center]
My comp is still 4 years old and i've not had any problems. Then again, i built it myself. P4 2.8ghz, 1gb of ram, radeon 9700 128MB, SB audigy 2 platinum. There were times where I ran both SWG and Jedi Academy at the same time. while waiting for my turn in a multiplayer duel, i'd alt+tab to galaxies and grind. All my past computers by year 3 i'd be like, OK WTF I need a new comp cause this lag is retarded. But here I am approaching Year 4 and i have no intentions on upgrading my comp or upgrading to Vista. I might be buying a laptop for school, but thats it. It will probably be a good year or two before I'll need a new comp at this rate.
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If you ever start playing this year's demanding new games, you will start noticing bad things happening. Eventually the standards of this year's new games will become the industry standards, and you will be hard put to find anything new you can play on your comp.

Regardless of that, design rule shrinks always reduce the space and power consumption needed to achieve the same functionality. Even if you don't find a benefit in multi-core CPU's, you may benefit in being able to get a laptop that runs games at least as well as your desktop without scorching either your jeans or your bank account. All the chips with shrunken design rules will run cooler for the same level of performance, including the memory and the graphics. This means less battery power needed, hence a lighter batter pack and/or longer duration as well.

Have I said enough, or should I rant about saving the world from global warming too? :p
 
My new comp, running a Core 2 Duo has 70-75 processes running, and everything runs quick and smooth.

Btw, 45nm will be in Intel's products very soon. Not only is 45nm superior to 65nm, but the 45nm technology will be present in Quad Core chips.
 
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well yes its obvious......but you werent saying this earlier
 
I'll be able to create new life forms with my computer! :mellow:

Just throw in a couple 8800's, or whatever the latest cards are.
 
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My new comp, running a Core 2 Duo has 70-75 processes running, and everything runs quick and smooth.

Btw, 45nm will be in Intel's products very soon. Not only is 45nm superior to 65nm, but the 45nm technology will be present in Quad Core chips.
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No doubt. Intel is like the jackbooted Prussian Army when it comes to rolling out new processes. :lol: :ph34r:


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ColdIce @ Feb 1 2007, 02:10 AM) [snapback]142261[/snapback][/center]
I'll be able to create new life forms with my computer! :mellow:

Just throw in a couple 8800's, or whatever the latest cards are.
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Actually, I tend to find new life forms in my old computers. You know, the ones that sit around in the garage until my wife makes me recycle them. :p
 
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