anyone else have a big election coming up

Marriage is a religous right... plain and simple. You get married in the eyes of God. (whoever that may be)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(reek @ Oct 24 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]128031[/snapback][/center]
Don't go back on your word now. You said you thought anyone who thought otherwise was an idiot.

Many, and likely most, Americans, btw, believe that marriage is a tradition and institution that should not be changed. They are OK with homosexual civil unions, but believe that marriage is inherently between a man and a woman.
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And I said "sorry" for that, if you read my reply to Epise ;) And I changed it and said that I think it is acting idioticly. I shouldn't call someone an idiot for having an opinion, thats wrong of me. But I can think that the way a person act or think is dumb, weird, idiotic etc. Being stupid, and acting stupid are two toltally different things ;)

And remember, Im from Sweden. We do not have the same belifes, and we are not as "hard core" religious as a lot of americans are. Not saying that its good or bad, just stating a fact.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SynTaXx-Wrath @ Oct 24 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]128032[/snapback][/center]
lol sorry but I love how you guys spell when you get all worked up :p
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I can blame that Im from Sweden ^_^ And Im not worked up, I think its a fun discussion and interesting :)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ackis @ Oct 25 2006, 04:18 AM) [snapback]128036[/snapback][/center]
Marriage is a religous right... plain and simple. You get married in the eyes of God. (whoever that may be)
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Wrong, as I have stated before.

Marriage considers you a couple in the states eyes, giving you benifits on your taxes ect.
Marriage considers you a couple in God's eyes.
Marriage lets you and all your friends know you are serious and such.

So naturally, don't let gay marriages be preformed in a church lest the preacher/church is willing to, however I see no reason that homosexual couples should not get the tax benifits or be able to visit a spouse on their death bed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ackis @ Oct 24 2006, 02:18 PM) [snapback]128036[/snapback][/center]
Marriage is a religous right... plain and simple. You get married in the eyes of God. (whoever that may be)
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So people who get married by a judge, or a ship's captain, are not married?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cahnuuk @ Oct 24 2006, 12:28 PM) [snapback]128044[/snapback][/center]
So people who get married by a judge, or a ship's captain, are not married?
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Those aren't marriages. Those are unions.

As I said, marriage is a religous right and is done before the eyes of God.

Just because current laws today have bastardized the sanctity of it doesn't mean it isn't true.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ackis @ Oct 24 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]128036[/snapback][/center]
Marriage is a religous right... plain and simple. You get married in the eyes of God. (whoever that may be)
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I think marriage is a sacred union between any two people, not a religious right. Started long before Christianity which a lot of things that are written in the bible did :)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ackis @ Oct 24 2006, 02:34 PM) [snapback]128046[/snapback][/center]
Those aren't marriages. Those are unions.

As I said, marriage is a religous right and is done before the eyes of God.

Just because current laws today have bastardized the sanctity of it doesn't mean it isn't true.
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Those are marriages in the eyes of the law, which is what we're discussing given the topic. If you want to deny anyone but Christians (and, since you mention "God", presumably Jews and Muslims) the ability to marry, I think you'll find dwindling support even amongst the Fox News crowd here.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Cahnuuk @ Oct 25 2006, 04:45 AM) [snapback]128050[/snapback][/center]
Those are marriages in the eyes of the law, which is what we're discussing given the topic. If you want to deny anyone but Christians (and, since you mention "God", presumably Jews and Muslims) the ability to marry, I think you'll find dwindling support even amongst the Fox News crowd here.
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Yeah, the thought that marriage is something that is specifically for church goers is a little out of date.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pawe @ Oct 24 2006, 09:31 PM) [snapback]128065[/snapback][/center]
Yeah, the thought that marriage is something that is specifically for church goers is a little out of date.
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/agreed
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pawe @ Oct 24 2006, 03:31 PM) [snapback]128065[/snapback][/center]
Yeah, the thought that marriage is something that is specifically for church goers is a little out of date.
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<--- Did not get married in a church. and had a very lovely ceremony outside
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Oct 25 2006, 06:01 AM) [snapback]128076[/snapback][/center]
<--- Did not get married in a church. and had a very lovely ceremony outside
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I would have no problem getting married in a church, if that is what my future wife would want. I would have no problem not getting married in a church if that is what my future wife would want.

My parents would probably prefer it to be in a church, but that is because they are oldschool.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ackis @ Oct 24 2006, 08:18 PM) [snapback]128036[/snapback][/center]
Marriage is a religous right... plain and simple. You get married in the eyes of God. (whoever that may be)
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I wouldn't get married in the eyes of God. I'd never do it for any God or for anyone else but me and my man. To me, marriage is a union between wo people in love. They want to share their life and show the world their happiness, and that they belong together. Its about two people becomming one.
I don't think it has anything to do with God. For me it has to do with love, nothing more, nothing less :) And by believing this, I see no reason for *any* two people to not being able to be married. And I think it's wrong to deny a couple this...gay, hetro or bi...

Now, when it comes to animals...then we are talking bizarre :p


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Oct 24 2006, 10:01 PM) [snapback]128076[/snapback][/center]
<--- Did not get married in a church. and had a very lovely ceremony outside
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That is my dream, to get married outside. Sounds awesome Fluffy ^_^
A churche is usually a very lovely building, with a lot of artwork and such. And a nice place for people to get together. But since I dont share the thoughts and the beliefs, it would feel wrong to get married or anything of the kind in a churche.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pawe @ Oct 24 2006, 10:03 PM) [snapback]128078[/snapback][/center]
I would have no problem getting married in a church, if that is what my future wife would want. I would have no problem not getting married in a church if that is what my future wife would want.

My parents would probably prefer it to be in a church, but that is because they are oldschool.
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And you are the one getting married, not yer parents. So you should do what feels right for you and your wife :)

Btw, are we in the Coffee House part of this forum? Serious stuff here :p ^_^
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zana @ Oct 25 2006, 06:13 AM) [snapback]128081[/snapback][/center]
And you are the one getting married, not yer parents. So you should do what feels right for you and your wife :)
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Oh I know, and I wouldn't dare get married in a church for them. Was just kind of rambling about how they would like it more.. :lol:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Zana @ Oct 24 2006, 04:13 PM) [snapback]128081[/snapback][/center]
That is my dream, to get married outside. Sounds awesome Fluffy ^_^
A churche is usually a very lovely building, with a lot of artwork and such. And a nice place for people to get together. But since I dont share the thoughts and the beliefs, it would feel wrong to get married or anything of the kind in a churche.


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Got married overlooking the Hudson river valley in NY...got this great hotel at West Point.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Oct 24 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]128099[/snapback][/center]
Got married overlooking the Hudson river valley in NY...got this great hotel at West Point.
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Sounds awesome! :)
My bro got married last New years eve. There were lots of snow and outside in the dark forest, in the night. Tourches lit up the scene, and they were put on a huge cliff that the ceremony was right next to. The snow was falling down slowly to the ground, and it was dead silent and no wind at all. One could only hear the minister.... It was so nice! :)
 
**There will be a small laugh section at the end of this post**

I feel, Zana, that marriage is between a man and a woman. As far as I know, this institution we call marriage, has been the same for as long as time, and goes beyond the bible and religion (which I don't follow).

I really do not know why it is so hard for gays to accept a civil union. They offer the same benefits of being married with the exception of the moniker "married". A civil union is still an expression of love between two individuals it just stops shy of saying they are married.

As for getting married outside.......do it seriously. I got married outside and it was great. Never had more fun and watching my wife-to-be's hair blow in the wind and the sun shine off her face was unbelievable. Definately something I will always remember.

**OK here is the laugh section......well might not be a laugh but not serious either and deals with gays**

Zana, gays getting married just isn't right. Think about it thier parts just don't fit togather like a man and a womans do. I mean two chicks have to buy extra gear to finish the puzzle and two guys have to buy tubes of lube to even get started fitting togather.......even at that one is left out till the other is done. Not natural I tell.........just not natural /shakes head negatively.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Oct 24 2006, 03:01 PM) [snapback]128076[/snapback][/center]
<--- Did not get married in a church. and had a very lovely ceremony outside [/b]
close to nature, as expected from a wookiee
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tiveria @ Oct 25 2006, 06:23 AM) [snapback]128100[/snapback][/center]
I got married by a JOP. ;)

And I'm one of those <strike>screwy</strike> Christian types...

:eek:
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Fixed :p
 
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