67 years ago...

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... 2,402 people lost their lives as the Japanese attacked the U.S. Pacific Fleet at harbor in Hawaii with no provocation.

Unless you live in a third world country, like anywhere in Europe or anywhere besides the United States of America, then these people died for you, and they deserve your remembrance today.
 
Franklin Delano Roosevelt said:
Mr. Vice President [Henry A. Wallace], Mr. Speaker [Sam Rayburn], members of the Senate and the House of Representatives: yesterday, December 7th, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan. The United States was at peace with that nation, and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its Government and its Emperor [Hirohito] looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in the American island of Oahu, the Japanese Ambassador [Kichisaburō Nomura] to the United States and his colleague [Saburō Kurusu] delivered to our Secretary of State [Cordell Hull] a formal reply to a recent American message. And while this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or of armed attack.
It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese Government has deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.
The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. I regret to tell you that very many American lives have been lost. In addition American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.
Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.
Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam.
Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.
Last night the Japanese attacked Wake Island.
And this morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.
Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.
As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.
But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.
I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.
Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.
With confidence in our armed forces—with the unbounding determination of our people—we will gain the inevitable triumph—so help us God.
I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, December 7th, 1941, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire.
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I look at the great sacrifices the people did during WWII and I often ask myself, if the nation were called upon to do this extraordinary thing today could it do it.

I'm not sure we could win WWII today with our current media and their mentality, nor am I certain Lincoln could have won the Civil War, or Washington the Revolutionary War if the media of that time was as ours is today. It makes me sad in many ways.
 
I look at the great sacrifices the people did during WWII and I often ask myself, if the nation were called upon to do this extraordinary thing today could it do it.

I'm not sure we could win WWII today with our current media and their mentality, nor am I certain Lincoln could have won the Civil War, or Washington the Revolutionary War if the media of that time was as ours is today. It makes me sad in many ways.

Friend of mine said exactly the same thing, regarding WWII...makes me scared more than sad :mellow:
 
I had to get out of the military for that reason. The juniors kept getting softer and more hyper-sensitive to every fucking thing my last 4 years in.
 
How does a thread honoring those at Pearl Harbor become a whine thread?

BTW, thanks for posting the speech, Cora. Roosevelt knew how to boil shit down and communicate to the people just what was going on and exactly what was at stake in the most plain of terms. We stepped up because we had a Roosevelt, or a Lincoln, leading us. Sometimes, that makes the difference.
 
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How does a thread honoring those at Pearl Harbor become a whine thread?

BTW, thanks for posting the speech, Cora. Roosevelt knew how to boil shit down and communicate to the people just what was going on and exactly what was at stake in the most plain of terms. We stepped up because we had a Roosevelt, or a Lincoln, leading us. Sometimes, that makes the difference.
At the same time it also boils down to how real the threat felt. In the Civil War the people of the southern states felt their whole society was on the line, and in WWII we were afraid of the Japanese invading California, or Hitler conquering Europe and setting his sights on us after that.
These last few years most Americans were more concerned with who was winning on American Idol... which says a lot of different things.
 
It's not a "sacrifice" if you're ship gets hit when you're off duty. It's a brutal attack and every time you think about this you wonder what might have happened if we hadn't dropped the nukes.
 
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