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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Feb 16 2006, 04:01 AM) [snapback]46089[/snapback][/center]

Dude, I don't care how busy the place was. The waitress coming over for the first time, 25 minutes after you sit down is completely unacceptable. She didn't recognize the drinks were empty, and she didn't check in with their meal or in with the other tables. That's a bad waitress, can't pin that stuff on anyone but her.

<------ Worked in all facets of the resturant buisness during summers in college. I pulled that crap, I wouldn't expect a tip from my table either.

P.S. At the resturants I worked at, the waiters/waitresses made the salads.
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I've worked in a few different food service places since I was 16, most recently Olive Garden. And everywhere I've worked at so far the salad is prepared by the serving staff. So that aspect was her fault but the food part you can't put on her. Myself being a cook, sometimes it takes a while to get your order up. If the place is super busy then we are making the food in the same order it is put into the machine.

Her assuming your drinks were ok, was her fault also. Ask anyone who has been a server, myself included, you ALWAYS ask the customer if they'd like another drink, refill, etc.

So I agree with you being upset with the waitress, HOWEVER, you have to realize she was probably in a section with at least 5-6 tables that night. That may not sound like much but thats anywhere from 12-48 people she has to be dealing with. Its not right for her to totally neglect you, but your tip is her income. As bas as the service is, at least shovel out the %15. Her income is derived from people's courtesy, whereas it may not have been that big of a hit to her on a night such as Valentine's. Any other day it could've hurt. Just something to think about. I ALWAYS tip at least 15% even if its shitty service, if I have a good server I've tipped people 15$ on a 40$ check more than once.

She was a bad waitress but cut her some slack, she had to been having a shitty day.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LilHammie @ Feb 16 2006, 05:21 AM) [snapback]46563[/snapback][/center]

I've worked in a few different food service places since I was 16, most recently Olive Garden. And everywhere I've worked at so far the salad is prepared by the serving staff. So that aspect was her fault but the food part you can't put on her. Myself being a cook, sometimes it takes a while to get your order up. If the place is super busy then we are making the food in the same order it is put into the machine.

Her assuming your drinks were ok, was her fault also. Ask anyone who has been a server, myself included, you ALWAYS ask the customer if they'd like another drink, refill, etc.

So I agree with you being upset with the waitress, HOWEVER, you have to realize she was probably in a section with at least 5-6 tables that night. That may not sound like much but thats anywhere from 12-48 people she has to be dealing with. Its not right for her to totally neglect you, but your tip is her income. As bas as the service is, at least shovel out the %15. Her income is derived from people's courtesy, whereas it may not have been that big of a hit to her on a night such as Valentine's. Any other day it could've hurt. Just something to think about. I ALWAYS tip at least 15% even if its shitty service, if I have a good server I've tipped people 15$ on a 40$ check more than once.

She was a bad waitress but cut her some slack, she had to been having a shitty day.
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Exactly my point Lil. Most people are ignorant about this line of work. It is a very hard job for what they get paid. But that is the problem with our society as a whole. People really don't care to walk a mile in another person's shoes.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Merlyn @ Feb 16 2006, 04:43 AM) [snapback]46549[/snapback][/center]

for me Valentines day is the WORST. I loath it. A commercialized excuse to be nice for one day out of the year. there is such a sense of obligation, It's valentines day so I hafta be romantic.

I cannot think of anything more crappy than sitting in a restaraunt on V-day watching couples try to be all romantic because they feel they have to be.

It sucks even more when your birthday lands on it, like a Christmas birthday or something. Can neverget spontanious dinner reservations and I am surrounded by commercialized mushyness, pink baloons and paper hearts.

Romance is special when it is unexpected. Flowers because it's Tuesday, or what ever...

not this commercialized Hallmark moment crap.
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I pop in porn where two lesbos are getting it on. Now that is romantic.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LilHammie @ Feb 16 2006, 08:21 PM) [snapback]46563[/snapback][/center]

So I agree with you being upset with the waitress, HOWEVER, you have to realize she was probably in a section with at least 5-6 tables that night. That may not sound like much but thats anywhere from 12-48 people she has to be dealing with. Its not right for her to totally neglect you, but your tip is her income.

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however, there were only 16 total tables, and she had 4. hpow do i know? cause it was the 4 in our little corner. 2 people were sitting at 2 tables, and 2 groups of 4 were sitting at the other one. and 3 of the 4 were totally ignored by her.

And i never said the wait for the food was her fault, I said we waited for our food period.

and the tips is her income, but she should at least CARE enoug hto try to get a tip..

if a lawn mower comes at 10:30 pm, only cut 1/2 of your yard, you wont pay him would you?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shaggz1297 @ Feb 17 2006, 12:10 AM) [snapback]46626[/snapback][/center]

however, there were only 16 total tables, and she had 4. hpow do i know? cause it was the 4 in our little corner. 2 people were sitting at 2 tables, and 2 groups of 4 were sitting at the other one. and 3 of the 4 were totally ignored by her.

And i never said the wait for the food was her fault, I said we waited for our food period.

and the tips is her income, but she should at least CARE enoug hto try to get a tip..

if a lawn mower comes at 10:30 pm, only cut 1/2 of your yard, you wont pay him would you?
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I agree, thats why I stated the salad and drink portion of the original post were absolutely her fault. But I'm just saying, at least tip her 15%. Bad service or not, .75$ is shitty.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LilHammie @ Feb 17 2006, 12:15 AM) [snapback]46629[/snapback][/center]

I agree, thats why I stated the salad and drink portion of the original post were absolutely her fault. But I'm just saying, at least tip her 15%. Bad service or not, .75$ is shitty.
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sorry, if a waitress is good im a great tipper. but you tip for the service. she was a shitty waitress, and her tip reflected perfectly her service to us. busy or not, stressed or not, its no excuse for totally ignoring your customers. and Im freaking sorry, its Val Day. EXPECT IT TO BE BUSY!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shaggz1297 @ Feb 17 2006, 12:18 AM) [snapback]46635[/snapback][/center]

sorry, if a waitress is good im a great tipper. but you tip for the service. she was a shitty waitress, and her tip reflected perfectly her service to us. busy or not, stressed or not, its no excuse for totally ignoring your customers. and Im freaking sorry, its Val Day. EXPECT IT TO BE BUSY!!
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As also an ex-waiter, if I pulled what she did I would have not expected anything for a tip. The absolute worst part was not coming by for the first time until 25 minutes after they sat down. The first meeting is propbably the single most important part of being a waiter, and she failed it miserably.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Feb 17 2006, 12:32 AM) [snapback]46642[/snapback][/center]

As also an ex-waiter, if I pulled what she did I would have not expected anything for a tip. The absolute worst part was not coming by for the first time until 25 minutes after they sat down. The first meeting is propbably the single most important part of being a waiter, and she failed it miserably.
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my #1 rule is if my drink never gets fully empty, the waiter/ess automatically get like a 30-35% tip.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fluffy @ Feb 17 2006, 12:32 AM) [snapback]46642[/snapback][/center]

As also an ex-waiter, if I pulled what she did I would have not expected anything for a tip. The absolute worst part was not coming by for the first time until 25 minutes after they sat down. The first meeting is propbably the single most important part of being a waiter, and she failed it miserably.
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I agree, I was like WTF when I read that the first time. Even if no one told her that her table was sat, she should at least be paying attention.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LilHammie @ Feb 17 2006, 12:34 AM) [snapback]46646[/snapback][/center]

I agree, I was like WTF when I read that the first time. Even if no one told her that her table was sat, she should at least be paying attention.
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lol, nah cant get away with that either. it was a small resturant like i said, and she walked by our table at least 5 times in the first 25 minute period

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shaggz1297 @ Feb 17 2006, 12:38 AM) [snapback]46653[/snapback][/center]

lol, nah cant get away with that either. it was a small resturant like i said, and she walked by our table at least 5 times in the first 25 minute period
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Well if you ever go back, tell her she's a shitty waitress for me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LilHammie @ Feb 17 2006, 12:39 AM) [snapback]46656[/snapback][/center]

Well if you ever go back, tell her she's a shitty waitress for me.
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sorry, you get one chance in my book. i will never return to that resturant again. and ill tell everyone i know if they ask not to go there.

First thing I want to say is please put paragraphs in your posts. ALL OF YOU!

Now that is out of my system.

Merlyn is right, but so is Artica. Women want romance. Now. It doesn't have to be on V-Day, or her birthday or any other special day of the year. In fact due to restaurants being so crowded on this day, often it's nice to do something different on another day.

I will give you props for doing something different. Fuck El-D on the money thing. It's not the money but the positive way you treat each other. Do something she won't expect - even if it's free. (Coupon books for oral sex, for messages, etc) are awesome. Getting a single chocolate rose. Or even telling her the things you wish you could have gotten. V said that to me this year and I was amazed because the idea was so sweet and from him.

As for the restaurant, I agree with you and Fluffy. Most of the time I will give 20% because I know how crappy they get paid, and most of the time I get good service. I've been known to tip over 50% when someone is outstanding. When I get really bad service, and I mean REALLY bad, I tip like crap. Honestly if they were that busy, most likely she would have gotten a lot more tips and a lot lower.

And I'm about Customer Service - I don't care how bad of a day someone is having, they don't let it out on the customers. They can go in the back and bitch and moan all they want - but they never should take it out on the people that will be paying them for working there.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shaggz1297 @ Feb 17 2006, 12:41 AM) [snapback]46661[/snapback][/center]

sorry, you get one chance in my book. i will never return to that resturant again. and ill tell everyone i know if they ask not to go there.
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Same here :mellow: I've been to Boston Market twice in my life, once in Michigan. Then again in Ohio to see if there was any difference, made me sick both times. I'll never eat there again.

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Same here :mellow: I've been to Boston Market twice in my life, once in Michigan. Then again in Ohio to see if there was any difference, made me sick both times. I'll never eat there again.
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We have one in Connecticut that's decent.

My rule is if I don't like it - I wait a year and try it again. New staff can mean a world of difference in a place.